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Thursday, June 21, 2007

Le Salon de MitMoi IV: Beer

A salon is a gathering of stimulating people of quality under the roof of an inspiring hostess, partly to amuse one another and partly to refine their taste and increase their knowledge through conversation and readings.


My friend Frreenie is a man of many talents and interests. By profession he's an environmental scientist, by avocation he's a brewer. I wondered how the engineer/hydrologist lined up as a brewer and what he had to teach me about quaffing my favorite brew. So sit back, pour something nice into your glass, and lets talk beer.


So Frreenie, why did you take up brewing as a hobby, and when did you brew your first batch of beer?

Why? Well, I like to make things from scratch. I have a tendency to get nearly obsessed with anything that catches my interest, and then I have to learn everything I can about it. Usually, that means I have to learn to do it myself. Beer became one of those obsessions and I never got bored with it, so the obsession continues.

Plus, how hard is it to like a hobby that provides you with a lot of really good beer?

When? I brewed my first batch on August 11, 1992 (ok, so I had to look that up, but fortunately I take copious brewing and tasting notes. Otherwise, how could I properly call it an obsession?).

Can you provide a list of the major categories of beer and the distinctions between them?

The two broadest categories of beer are ales and lagers.

Ales

Ales are typically brewed close to room temperature (65-70 °F, or 18-21 °C) and the fermentations are vigorous, produce a lot of foam, and are usually over in a few days (depending on the strength of the beer, the temperature of the fermentation, and the health of the yeast). Ales tend to be fruity, soft, and often have very distinctive flavors produced by yeast during the fermentation (which means that if you are familiar with the yeast, you might easily identify the yeast strain when you taste the beer).

Lagers

Lagers are fermented at much colder temperatures, starting around 55 °F (13 °C) and slowly lowered over several weeks while the fermentation is completed. Lagers are then held during a period of cold storage (called "lagering") that serves to clarify and stabilize the beer. Lagers tend to have a crisper, cleaner taste than ales with a less noticeable flavor contribution from the yeast. Most ale yeasts would not be capable of fermenting at the colder temperatures suitable for lager yeasts, they could simply go dormant.

Nothing is cut and dry, of course, and there are beers fermented warmer or cooler than these general guidelines. There are also hybrid styles such as steam beer (a lager fermented more like an ale) and cream ale (an ale fermented more like a lager).

Beyond those broadest categories things get very complicated. A beer judging organization I belong to lists 22 major style categories (yes, you read that right, I am a beer judge. Did I happen to mention that I was obsessed?). Some of the major categories for ales include English Pale Ales, Scottish And Irish Ales, American Ales, English Brown Ales, Porters, Stouts, India Pale Ales (IPAs), German Wheat And Rye Beers, Belgian And French Ales, Sour Ales, Belgian Strong Ales, and Strong Ales. For lagers there are Light Lagers, Pilsners, European Amber Lagers, Dark Lagers, and Bocks. These major categories are further sub-divided into over 70 individual styles. There is tremendous variety in beer!

What is your favorite style of beer?

Well, this is a difficult question because there are so many different types of beer and most of them are easy to like. The beer I reach for at any given time is likely to depend on so many things (including, unfortunately, the rather crappy selection that persists in many bars, restaurants, and package stores).

In general I prefer ales to lagers, although there are plenty of lagers I enjoy. It really depends on what I am doing at the moment. If I really had to pick a favorite style of beer, I might pick Pale Ales because they are so simple, they are usually not very strong, and they are typically hoppy especially if it is an American Pale Ale ("hoppy" means characterized by the aroma, flavor, and bitterness of hops). Pale Ale is an unpretentious and easy to enjoy style, and it is very flavorful.

There are lots of other styles I like, though, and there are some types of beer have seasonal tendencies. In the summer I may more frequently enjoy both Belgian and German style wheat beers. In the winter, I tend towards richer and stronger beers - the kinds that bring a bit of a blush to your face.

Give me some history on the resurgence of the American micro-brew.

Puhleeze, did I really sign up for this? Oh all right, here we go.

  • America is a land of immigrants, and as diverse peoples came here, so did their beer.
  • There used to be a lot of regional breweries and most cities had numerous locally brewed neighborhood beers.
  • Then there was prohibition, depression, and world wars. Few of those regional breweries survived.
  • After the demise of the small breweries, mega-breweries and mass distribution of a very homogeneous product became prevalent.
  • Imports were spotty and usually stale by the time they reached our shelves.
  • We lost our beer culture, yet remained thirsty.
  • Wine coolers and Zima really sucked.
  • Things were so bad we actually liked Canadian imports (Canadians kept the good stuff for themselves).
  • This was a good time to learn how to brew some tasty beer.
  • Meanwhile, Fritz Maytag showed us that good beer was good business.
  • Homebrewers started turning pro, brewing for small shops and restaurants.
  • UC Davis and Siebel in Chicago began offering professional degrees in brewing.
  • Fortunately, our beer culture is coming back now, and there is much more diversity in styles and breweries.
  • There are now also notable American styles, resurrected historical styles, and “in your face” American hops.
  • Most medium sized American cities once again have at least one brewery, or brew pub, or both. Sweet!

Would you/could you discuss the correlation between pure water for brewing vs water quality in our watershed?

Interesting question. Water is certainly an important ingredient in beer. The brewing literature is full of references to the importance of water chemistry, including suggestions that some beer styles have a different and more authentic flavor when brewed with water similar in chemistry to the region where the styles originated. It is not unusual to find modern day brewers that treat their water to more closely match the source water of some of the famous brewing regions. Pilsen, home of the original Pilsner, has incredibly soft water that seems to be perfect for brewing the lightest and crispest of the lagers. Munich, London, and Dublin have carbonate rich waters poorly suited for pale beers, and are all home to some notably dark beers (dunkels, porters, and stouts).

If you were to consider the differences in water quality in major brewing regions and the styles those regions are known for, some questions come to mind: Did certain beer styles evolve in certain regions because the local water chemistry was ideally suited to that style? Are certain water types not suitable for brewing some beers and acceptable for others? Did regional styles evolve as a way of taking advantage of (or masking a deficiency in) these differences in water quality?

An example comes from the Burton area in England which is noted for producing pale ales and IPAs (such as Bass). If you want to take a little diversion into beer-geekdom go here: Burton Salts

Food and beer pairings – what do you look for – how do you memorize flavors and know what's going to go with what?

I have to admit that I am hesitant to suggest general guidelines about how to pair beer with food. In general, I think rules about how to eat and drink are ridiculous and ultimately will only confuse people. If you want a rule, and you only need one, here it is, hereby known as "The Rule":

Drink what you like with things you like to eat!

Having said that, beer goes extremely well with food and I would be lying if I said I didn't think a lot about putting them together. It is just that I have no interest in making a list with "this type of beer goes well with this type of food" because, honestly I think lists like that are pointless although specific examples are fine. This is also a much bigger topic than could reasonably be addressed in this salon.

But, I will give the following few suggestions:

Beer is filling. If you want to serve a variety of beers at a dinner, don't feel compelled to give each guest a whole bottle. Serve 4 to 6 ounces at a time, and serve it in a glass. Serving smaller quantities also makes it easier to share a bottle with friends, and thereby have more variety without drinking a lot of beer. The flavor and aroma of the beer is also much easier to appreciate out of a glass. If you don't have suitable beer glasses, feel free to use large wine glasses. Personally, I'm happy to suck down a cold beer straight from the bottle if I'm at a backyard barbecue, but if you are at a sit-down-dinner - drink your beer out of a glass! You'll enjoy it more!

Beer is also very nice all by itself. You could argue that some wines are much better when paired with the right food than they are by themselves, and obviously in that case it is important to think about food pairings when you serve them. This is much less of an issue with beer, so just relax about it and try something new. Serving different beers with different courses is another great way to introduce some variety. You can also have beer with one course, and wine with another. When in doubt, refer to:

"The Rule"

Courtesy of Mit you will find links to recipes that go well with the following beers.

German
  • Hefeweizen:
  • Franziskaner
    Ayinger
  • Weizenbock:
  • Aventinus
    Irish Stout
  • Dry:
  • Guinness
    American Ale
  • IPA:
  • Harpoon IPA
  • Steam Beer:
  • Anchor Steam
    Belgian Ale
  • Belgian Strong Ale:
  • Duvel

    Now let's compare tasting notes!

    Wednesday, June 20, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi IV: Beer "The Test"

    Would you/could you discuss the correlation between pure water for brewing vs water quality in our watershed?

    The Burton Water Example

    The Burton area in England is noted for producing pale ales and IPAs (such as Bass). The water in this region is very hard, resulting from the prevalence of gypsum minerals. Normally we think of hardness values around 100 as moderately hard, and values as high as 200 as hard. The hardness in Burton waters is off the scale in comparison, and is typically over 800 mg/L as CaCO3. Because gypsum is the dominant mineral, these waters are also characterized by sulfate as the dominant anion (rather than bicarbonate). The fact that the birthplace of pale ales and IPAs happened to occur in an area with unique water chemistry has sparked the interest of many brewers, and has led many to conclude that very hard waters rich in sulfates are not just a coincidence, but are essential ingredient in a proper pale ale. The mineral profile of Burton waters is said to both enhance and refine the bitterness of these beers.

    If you talk to a brewer that brews a pale ale or IPA, it would not be unusual to find that he or she is aware of this association with Burton water, that they believe that a high hardness associated with sulfate is important to the flavor profile of the beer, and they may even add “Burton Salts” (powdered gypsum) to their pale ales because they are convinced it makes a difference. I know one brewer that is so convinced of the flavor nuances contributed by Burton Salts that he will discuss them at great length, concluding that the sulfate in particular lends a drying finish to the beer. He believes that this dry finish leaves his customers thirsty for another sip, and helps him sell more beer.

    When I hear a story like this, I think “Aha! We can formulate a testable hypothesis about the importance of Burton salts on the flavor profile of Pale Ales!” ( . . . have I mentioned that science is another obsession of mine?).

    Consider the following experiment: Brew three beers with exactly the same IPA recipe, except that one of the three is brewed with water matching that of Burton (with a hardness of 850 mg/L) and the other two are brewed with local water (here in Syracuse the water hardness tends to be around 110 mg/L). If the minerals in Burton water affect the flavor, then the beer brewed with Burton water should taste different. Simple, right? Comparison of the Burton-batch with the other two batches will determine what those differences are and how important they are. We need two batches brewed without Burton salts to help identify the normal variation between batches. So the Burton batch not only should taste different, but those differences must be greater than the normal batch-to-batch variation between otherwise identical beers, if we are to conclude they are significant.

    Serve these beers at your next tasting party and see if anyone can tell them apart (I’m sure you all have regular tasting parties, don’t you?, they’re loads of fun). Of course, to make the comparison meaningful no one can know which beer is which, including the host. Naturally, this leads us to the double-blind triangle test (oh come on, you’ve read this far don’t give up now). Lets say I make these three beers, one of them with Burton water, and label them with three random labels (lets say Larry, Curley, and Moe). At this point I know which of these three beers is the Burton beer, but I don’t tell anyone else at the tasting. Next, I have one of the guests replace my labels (Larry, Curley, and Moe) with different labels also selected randomly (such as Red, Blue, Green, or whatever), and pour them into three glasses for each guest, which are also labeled Red, Blue, and Green. The test is now double blind and no one knows which beer is which. The rest of the test is simple - everyone tastes all three beers and determines which beer they think is most different from the other two and why. Selections are made on an anonymous ballet without discussion. After everyone has made a selection, we compare labels to find which beer is which, and count how many people choose each beer. If there are no differences between the three, you’d expect that random chance would result in 33% of the participants picking the right beer as being different. If the Burton beer really tasted differently, significantly more than 33% of the participants would have to identify it as the one that is different.

    I’ve conducted this experiment twice, the first time with 35 participants and the second time with 12. Both times people could not identify the beer brewed with treated water more often than dictated by chance. From these results I conclude that Burtonized water is not really as important as is commonly believed.

    Experiments are also planned to test the importance of regional water chemistries on the characteristics of stouts in Dublin, and pilsners in Pilsen, among others.

    Just to be clear, these results do not mean that water chemistry isn't important. There are many ways in which water chemistry can create problems. Some examples:

    • Water with too high a pH (especially if buffered by high alkalinity) can create problems in the mash, including poor enzyme activity, and extraction of harsh tannins from the barley husks. It is possible that moderately high alkalinity may be alleviated by using more heavily roasted grains (this is the point that will be followed up in the Dublin water experiment).
    • Water high in iron and sulfide (sometimes this is a problem with well water in particular) is likely to produce off flavors in the finished beer.
    • Chlorination in municipal tap water can often create detectable off-flavors in a finished beer.

    My own precautions against all of these issues is to use a clean, reliable potable water source, monitor the pH of the mash and runoff during the sparge, and remove chlorine by carbon filtration.

    Um, what was the question again?

    Monday, June 18, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi IV: Beer List

    A salon is a gathering of stimulating people of quality under the roof of an inspiring hostess, partly to amuse one another and partly to refine their taste and increase their knowledge through conversation and readings.

    Selected Beers for the interactive tasting:

    German
  • Hefeweizen:
  • Franziskaner
    Ayinger
  • Weizenbock:
  • Aventinus
    Irish Stout
  • Dry:
  • Guinness
    American Ale
  • IPA:
  • Harpoon IPA
    Belgian Ale
  • Belgian Strong Ale:
  • Duvel
    Please join MitMoi and Frreenie

    Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:00 pm EST/18:00 BST*

    What makes a good beer?

    How is a good beer made?

    Amuses-bouche and serving suggestions to complement these beers will also be included


    Le Salon de MitMoi: IV Beer


    Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:00 pm EST/18:00 BST*

    *In an effort to be more accessible to our UK friends we're opening this post earlier than normal. The OP and guest will try to be here as much as possible.

    Tuesday, June 12, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi IV: Here, Have a Cold One!

    A salon is a gathering of stimulating people of quality under the roof of an inspiring hostess, partly to amuse one another and partly to refine their taste and increase their knowledge through conversation and readings.
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    Please join MitMoi and Frreenie

    Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:00 pm EST/18:00 BST*

    - for an interactive-

    Le Salon de MitMoi: IV Beer

    Brewing, Drinking, Food Pairing


    What makes a good beer?

    HOW is a good beer made?

    What do you serve with beer?


    In an attempt to include as many people as possible, please review this list of beers and let me know which ones you can find in your area. We will then narrow the list further:

    German
  • Hefeweizen:
  • Franziskaner
    Ayinger
  • Weizenbock:
  • Aventinus
    Irish Stouts
  • Dry:
  • Murphy’s
    Guiness
    Beamish
  • Sweet:
  • Mackeson Triple XXX Stout
    American Ales
  • IPA:
  • Harpoon IPA
  • Strong Ale:
  • Arrogant Bastard
  • Robust Porter:
  • Anchor Porter
    Belgian Ales
  • Wit or White:
  • Hoegaarden
  • Belgian Pale:
  • Leffe Blonde
  • Belgian Strong Ale:
  • Duel

    Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:00 pm EST/18:00 BST*

    I hope you'll join us!

    *In an effort to be more accessible to our UK friends we're opening this post earlier than normal. The OP and guest will try to be here as much as possible.

    Sunday, May 27, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi III - "Guitars: The Beat Boys"

    And when my mind is free you know melody can move

    And when I'm feeling blue the guitar's coming through to soothe me

    Thanks for the joy that you've given me

    I want you to know I believe in your song

    Your rhythm and rhyme and harmony

    You've helped me along

    You're making me strong

    Bill Withers, Give me the Beat Boys


    Time after time we find ourselves talking about music. How it makes us feel, helps us recall a memory, or express an emotion. I've often wondered what it's like for the student of music and the performer. Do they get more out of the music than just the "listener"? How does it effect them? Are their reactions different than mine? Tonight's guest is MisterGuitar. With a name like that I knew there had to be a strong love in him for this particular instrument of sound.


    "What was your first electrical guitar?"

    My first electric guitar was very memorable 1983 USA Fender Stratocaster.

    People familiar with Fender CBS (as in Columbia Broadcast System, the TV company) know this was the year Fender decided to cut production costs. In 1983 they got rid of the jack plate and put a tone knob in place of the jack. They also wired the guitar differently and it had a totally different Tremolo System.

    People used to scoff at these instruments. I liked them because the design change and different tremolo led to more wood and more sustain. Plus I actually liked the bridge on them! They didn't have a route on the back like a normal Strat does.

    Here's a clip of someone playing a guitar just like it.

    How did you acquire it?

    Once I had a "real job" working in a chemistry lab, I bought the '83 from a music store in Downtown Raleigh off Peace Street. This was the days before Sam Ash, Guitar Center, and Musician's Friend. I purchased it before I got married. After I got married, I sold it to buy a washer and dryer. It was a harbinger of things to come in my married life.

    What guitar is your favorite in you collection right now?

    Hmm Probably my Stevie Ray Vaughn Strat.

    It is a special Strat, made of higher quality materials than most strats, but the reason I love this guitar is it just sounds so good! For one thing it has more wood in the body than your current "off the shelf" strat.

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    Stratocasters now typically come with what is called a "bathtub" route. It's a large hollowed out area under the pickgaurd that is routed out for pickups. Back in the 50's and 60's they only removed "just enough" wood to fit the pickups in. The bathtub route came much later as a cost saving measure because some people preferred strats with humbucker pickup configurations rather than single coil (a bigger pickup). This way they only have to have one kind of guitar body on the shelf to make all the different models.

    I also have this guitar strung with a set of 11's which is a heavier gauge string than I normally play. (Usually 10's, but I also have a Telecaster with 12's on it) This gives it a much bigger sound. The pickups on this guitar are what they call "Texas Specials". They are over-wound to give them a much hotter sound than a standard pickup. It also has a Hendrix style left hand Vibrato which is pretty unconventional. The neck is fast, and.. well, the guitar just sounds awesome! I have sworn that I would live on the street before I ever sold this guitar. You would have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.

    Explain to me how an electrical vs acoustic guitar works.

    Typically acoustic guitars work using acoustic amplification. Essentially they are large wooden boxes with a sound hole behind the strings to amplify the sound. The wood is very dry and seasoned for resonance.

    Electric guitars use electric pickups. Pickups are essentially bar magnets wrapped with a coil of wire. This is then fed to an electrical amplification circuit. Not unlike the amplifier in your radio or car stereo.

    The lines between acoustic and electric guitars are kind of blurred now as acoustic guitars are increasingly coming mic'ed or have Fishman Piezo type pickups. Another modification blurring guitar distinctions are the semi-hollow guitar bodies like the Gibson ES-335 (Chuck Berry's Guitar) That is they are hollow with sound holes, but have a solid block in the middle and electric pickups. Clear as mud eh?

    Bass, Lead, and Rhythm guitars. What's the difference?

    The bass guitar is basically the same as a regular guitar minus the top two strings. It's tuned identically. BUT it is played much differently. Lead is more about fills, vamps, and melody lines. Rhythm guitar is the wood that it's all built from, and Bass is the glue that holds it all together. Think of the bass as the bridge between the drum player and the rest of the band. Bass is all about being rhythmic and being in sync with the drummer.

    What guitar do you lust after.

    A Gibson Tal Farlow. It was a very limited edition guitar. It was very expensive at the time and didn't sell well. They became very popular with collectors so Gibson did another limited production run back in the 90's out of their custom shop to meet demand for them. They sound WONDERFUL! They are one of the best, most mellow jazz guitars ever! Second only to a vintage Gibson L5 or ES-175. I got to play a used 90's model way back and I just thought... WOW!

    Where does music "take you" when you play? Do you get "lost" in the music when you play?

    Away from my current life. Which is typically a mess. A little known fact to a lot of folks is I am constantly battling depression. My music and guitar habit is healthier than a drug problem or Prozac. I'm sure I'd have either, or both, if I didn't have this outlet.

    Are you only able to escape the day-to-day world when you improvise on a song?

    No. I play a lot of cover tunes. Typically the way I am feeling either motivates me to write songs, or play a certain song describing my feelings. I'm kind of a closet emo in that way.

    Is it a particular part of a song that aids in the escapism?

    Usually during certain lyrical parts. I've taken up trying to sing as well now, and I am starting to find my voice. As my confidence has increased I have noticed my voice is sounding MUCH better. And a lot of it is I'm singing something that means something to me.

    What are your 3 favorite musical styles to play on the guitar?

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    Jazz

    It requires technical competency in music theory, but also soul, because you have to be able to improvise with feeling. Every jazz performance is unique because they are different. Each is it's own creation. To me this is the essence of music. I would use Grant Green as a good example of this. With albums on Blue Note covering Gospel, Country, Latin, and a plethora of other song styles, his improvisation skills are second to none! I would cite "It's Your Thing" off the, "Ain't it Funky Now" Album. I love the improv on this. One of my favorite tracks of all time...

    Blues

    This is my first love. While simple in theory with only 3 chords and a 12 bar format, this music is pure emotion. Using string bending, practitioners can almost make the guitars speak! A call and response type approach is used a lot as well. I would cite Buddy Guy on this one. If you have ever heard his version of "Things that I Used To Do". Pure emotion!

    Finger-style

    This is just wonderful stuff. In the hands of a skilled finger-style guitarist, a guitar can sound like a symphony. On this one I have to cite the original "Mister Guitar" Chet Atkins. Some of his early work on the RCA label you are like "how on EARTH did he do that?!" Specifically I would cite the pull-off runs in "Main-street Breakdown" as one of those "wow!" moments.

    What sensation do you feel when you're playing?

    Release. Period.

    It's like having good sex, being loved, happiness, warmth, and relief all rolled up into one.


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    So, tell me, what's your favorite guitar, favorite style of playing, and what do you feel like when you play?

    Monday, May 07, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi II – “Unify, Serve, Protect”

    A salon is a gathering of stimulating people of quality under the roof of an inspiring hostess, partly to amuse one another and partly to refine their taste and increase their knowledge through conversation and readings.

    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing that is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill


    The following people serve in the military. Two because they chose, one because she must. I wondered what their thoughts and feelings were about serving their country and if there was any common ground in their experiences. After these interviews, I am led to believe their hearts are bigger and stronger than mine. Please allow me to introduce:

    JCleveng3r, 23 years old, Michigan, USA

    Instant-Gravity, 25 years old, Florida, USA

    Ms. T_Golin, 22 years old, Tel Aviv, Isreal

    JClevenger

    Why did you chose to enter the military?

    As cliché as this may sound, I’ve always envisioned myself a Marine. When I was a little kid I played games with friends and pretended I was getting the bad people and now, I am getting the bad people. My vision of me being a Marine is as sound now as it was back then. Although, when I was younger, things were simple, it was a game, now, things are real; I never thought I would be going to war.

    I joined the Marine Core for two main reasons. The first reason is probably the same for countless others as it is for me; I joined to get a paid college education. The second was/is to travel the world. I could not pass up a free ticket to places some only dream about going.

    Instant-Gravity

    Why did you chose to enter the military?

    I chose to enter the Marines 01/Jul/01. Two months before 9/11. I joined because I realized that even though I had graduated high school, I was still just a kid, and I had no plans. I needed to grow up and become a man, and I needed money for college. Plus I had an inkling that women loved men in uniform.

    Instant-Gravity

    What do you think about nations that have compulsory service requirements?

    Well, there is the school of thought that everyone should do some military time to better orient themselves in life. But I think, to get the benefit out of it, it should be a voluntary decision. As for countries that make it mandatory, although I understand why they have to do it, military service isn't something that should be forced onto a person, especially infantry.

    JClevenger

    What do you think about nations that have compulsory service requirements?

    While I understand the need for mandatory military service time, I don't necessarily agree with it. I definitely don't agree with a permanent need for compulsory service, I can understand on some level the need for a temporary call for mass enlistment. On that note, I do think that a little service time would do more good than it would bad. While typing this out, I looked up compulsory military service, just to get a better idea of what countries have it, and to my surprise, a lot more countries have it than I thought. Another thing that shocked me was the minimum age requirement for obligatory service. Although most countries that use conscription, the minimum age was 18, some were as young as 15.

    I do not intend to doubt that compulsory military service does sometimes have favorable effects. However, the fact that an institution has positive effects too, does not justify its existence. For instance, we know from former political prisoners that in the forced labor camps of Recsk in the 50s, that a lively intellectual prison life took place. Despite this, nobody would ever come up with the idea of citing these positive moments for justifying the existence of such camps.

    Radically speaking: compulsory military service is the institution of modern state slavery. Many people find this radical phrase harsh and reject it. However, if we think about the fact that this institution strictly controls almost every aspect of a citizen's life; since it prescribes when and what to eat, how to dress, who to greet and how, who to obey, who to share a room with and where and it forces him to take an oath in which he accepts to sacrifice even his own life -- well, then we cannot deny that the analogy with slavery is not so far-fetched.

    Also, I would think that a coup d'état is much more likely to happen in countries that have conscription compared to those countries that don't.

    In the end, there are some legitimate reasons for the countries that have it, to have it, but I think it should be done on a volunteer basis rather than a forced decision.

    Tamar

    How do you think this compulsory service effects your nation?

    While many people consider national compulsory military service to be a unifying and strengthening factor for my country, I do not. I do agree that it can create some form of brotherhood and sense of a common goal that can be positive. People take with them the values and the style taught to them by the military and implement those in their lives later. Unfortunately, the "leftovers" are not limited to the positive aspects only. Not many countries enlist, on a regular basis, such an overwhelming cut of the population (most notably not limited to males). Having a big part of the population go through such a collective experience can and will have a huge impact on many aspects of our culture.

    Tamar

    Does compulsory service strengthen your county and people? (Because everyone has served, so you all have something in common?) Or does it weaken your nation?

    Combat and war obviously can be traumatic to people and can cause pain on an individual level, those cases exist in every fight. These are not the real problems with compulsory military service though. It is not necessarily the big fights or the dramatic events in wars with our surrounding countries that are the worst, but very possibly the decades of grinding contact with the Palestinian population.

    Standing in a check post for hours, for months at a time, constantly dealing with abuse, stress, hatred and pain on both the Israeli and Palestinian side is not a good experience for anyone. Even those who do not work directly with the Palestinian population are often exposed to it, it turns routine. I have dealt with numerous issues surrounding checkpoints and Palestinian population and the main sensation I recall is desperation, frustration. You feel helpless and trapped, unable to help, and annoyed.

    The effects can often be desensitization to violence and human pain, and these effects are becoming more and more apparent in the Israeli street.

    The documentary "Checkpoint" shows this very well, I highly recommend watching it for anyone interested to know what such an experience is like. I find it to be very different than most movies made about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in that it does not strive for sensational scenes where one side is made to be the villain. It is mellow, and painfully so.

    A scene from the movie Checkpoint

    JClevenger

    Does the daily reality of being a Marine match the aspirations you had as a child?

    Now that I am, where I am, I’m wrestling with the idea of making the military a career. Not that I wasn’t before I joined, but I became very patriotic. I’m all about the Corps values; Honor, Courage, and Commitment. You may know what those three words mean, but to a Marine, they take on a completely new meaning. The three Corps Values, they make up the bedrock of the character of each individual Marine. They are the foundation of his Corps. These three values, handed down from generation to generation, have made U.S. Marines the Warrior Elite. Another term you may have seen before, and another motto of the Core is Semper Fi (Semper Fidelis), which means, Always Faithful.

    Tamar

    If you were to speculate, do most people support this requirement of the government? What do you think about a volunteer army, like the US has?

    It is hard to answer such a question about Israel. Here going into the military has always been mandatory. It is so obvious and so natural to most people that they are to go to the military. Everyone you know has served, all the heads of the country are usually former generals and you are aware of the army and of your future service from a very early age. It is never so much a question, but a fact, that military service is in your future.

    That being said, I would assume that people think of "support" for compulsive military service in different terms here. Almost any Israeli will probably tell you that it is necessary to have compulsory service in Israel to keep the country alive. The option of voluntary service will seem absurd to almost everyone for the mere size of the nation.

    Instant-Gravity

    Now that you have hindsight, would you make the same choice?

    Knowing what I know now, I would have still gone in, but I would not have picked the infantry as my military occupation specialty.

    Tamar

    So, do most people support the requirement of a compulsorily military service?

    Most people never even thought to question it. Personally I have no idea how a system like the US military would work for Israel and if it is at all feasible. I would certainly not volunteer but I can think of many who will.

    JClevenger

    Putting aside the politics of why you're being called to serve again, what do you think about having to return to Iraq?

    I really want to say that I’m indifferent, but I can’t, I do have an opinion and I do have feelings about going there. I understand, in a sense, why I’m going, but it doesn’t make going any easier. I signed the dotted line, I committed 4 years of my life to the Core. To America. So really, my opinion doesn’t matter. But, for the purpose of the Salon, I’ll give my two cents. I understand that we (America) cannot just pick up and leave, as so many people think we should. We made this mess, so it’s us that have to clean it up. And by us I mean me, and everyone else in the service. Leaving Iraq would do two things. Negative things.

    First and foremost it would show the rest of the world we’re not committed to finishing what we started, hard or not.

    Second, it would show the terrorists more than anyone else, that we’re weak, thus making us easy targets; making them gutsier, thus increasing the attacks/attempted attacks on America.

    JClevenger

    Is it good that soldiers are returning to duty for second and third times, because they have more experience? Or, do you think it’s bad, because it's demoralizing to face the enemy again? Is it hard to go because you KNOW what you'll be facing and you thought it was behind you? Because you don't want to have to gear up to that mindset again? Because you feel like you're barely hanging on now?

    I don’t want to say facing the enemy is going to be demoralizing, but it’ll definitely be hard. I try not to think about it too much, because thinking about where I’ll be going shortly, will just ruin my time left here. Subconsciously, I’ll be gearing my mind up for what’s to come, till I’m there. Once there, it’s just a job; I’ll be counting down the days till I come home.

    The whole killing thing is a hard thing to do, it’s even harder sitting here thinking about it. However, when faced with the prospect of dying/being killed by someone else, I will not hesitate. Semper Fi

    Wednesday night I will post the commentary that followed this post.

    Tuesday, April 17, 2007

    Le Salon de MitMoi - Photography

    A salon is a gathering of stimulating people of quality under the roof of an inspiring hostess or host, partly to amuse one another and partly to refine their taste and increase their knowledge through conversation and readings.

    The Photographer’s Mind

    Photography fascinates me, does it fascinate you? I am amazed that you can point a small box at an image and have the image transferred to a gelatinous film and then reproduce it on paper. It is a highly evolved form of magic, if you ask me.

    I’m not just intrigued by the mechanical aspects of this art and craft – but also by the artistic aspects. Why can two people stand side by side, look at the same object and take two completely different images? Also – why are some images so powerful – and others under whelm you when you look at them. Have you ever just walked by something, and never given it a second glance – only to have it presented to you in a image that takes away your breath?

    I come from a family of photographers, yet I dislike taking photos. I think it’s because what I see in my minds eye, I cannot translate through the box onto the paper. Having a “good eye” is a gift. But successful photography involves more than that one component.

    In our midst, we have a talented artist. By day he designs living spaces – by night he lurks on OKC. When he escapes these two mistresses, he photographs our world.

    Recently I asked him nine questions:

    Blue – when did you first start taking pictures?

    My parents gave me a camera for Christmas, I’m guessing 1975. It was a Konica Auto S-2, which was a classic Japanese Rangefinder. I still have it, and recently started using it again. I took a Photography class in high school, and learned to develop film in the school’s dark room.

    How did you acquire the “eye” ?

    My mother is a very good photographer, so I’m sure it’s in the genes. She also had an extensive library of photography books. In particular, the Time Life Library of Photography, and I remember reading those books for hours on end.( I recently found the whole set of those books on eBay) I believe I was born with a naturally artistic eye, honed and refined by years of watching the art of photography.

    How does your photographers eye influence your design esthetic?

    They go hand in hand. I fell away from Photography for years…. Most of the 80’s to the mid-90’s. But during that time period I developed into a designer, so I still gravitated to a very visually oriented field.

    Always looking and mentally picturing designs and images. My Photography and my design work both tend towards minimalism for the most part. My design work does not always allow total freedom of expression, due to client input and desires. Photography allows me that total freedom.

    Black and White vs Color

    For me, the only true photographic art is B & W, but that is very subjective, and I would not even say that in certain circles! I do work in color, but rarely consider it among my best shots. I don’t consider one easier or better than the other. It has more to do with the minimalism that I strive for. For instance I do like color photography with very muted and monochromatic tones.

    What styles of photography do you admire most?

    I most admire the highly technical and perfectionist works in the style of Ansel Adams or Edward Weston.

    Though not my favorite photographers, their work is certainly the most difficult to produce and emulate, and represents the highest standard of the photographic craft.

    How difficult was the move from film to digital?

    Too easy… but digital is what got me back into photography. I currently use an Olympus C-500, which is a digital SLR. Digital provides immediate gratification, but it just lacks something for me. Images that look gorgeous on the computer screen look amateurish on paper. etc. I have been moving back to film, and using a high quality film scanner to process the results. I am using this method for my Medium Format Rolleiflex, and with my $5 eBay Polaroid camera. I am currently really excited about a project I am working on with Polaroid scans.

    Name one historically prominent photographer you admire.

    Minor White He has been called a poet with a camera, and his work is not just visual poetry, but he also often accompanied his work with written verse.

    Name one “hot” new photography who’s work your excited to see develop.

    Zoe Strauss is a Philadelphia based photographer. Her work is the polar opposite of mine, it is hard edged, in-your-face street photography…color even! But it is work that draws you in and won’t let go.

    What are your favorite images from your portfolio?

    Nudes

    Black & White

    Polaroid Scans

    Additional Information about BlueWingTeal’s photography and selected artists:

    Blue's Flicker Page Blue's Photo Blog Minor White's Photo Work Zoe Strauss In the following section are some comments from last night that were interesting and informative.

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    Markioli: If anyone reading this was not an avid photographer, I’m quite convinced that BlueWingTeal would have just changed that.

    Well done on such a great presentation of words to make other people look at the world in a different way, as I’m sure they now will.

    MitMoi: Markioli, you're right. He's always presenting images that make you re-evaluate what you're looking at. All three of his examples highlight this.

    When I first looked at the nude, the shapes and shadows were so pleasing. But it didn't register WHAT I was looking at. I went back to the title - and then looked again. Then suddenly the breast "popped" into view.

    BlueWingTeal: That's a really good question about seeing the world differently.... I think it is just about seeing... not necessarily different. I have always known that I notice things that others don't. Actually, just this winter my Father told me a story about a time I was very young, and the whole family walked past a spider's nest, and I was the only one who saw it. I have always been that way.

    Ireland: Blue what type of camera do you have and lense?

    BlueWingTeal: My Film cameras are....Olympus OM-1 35mm, and a Rolleiflex TLR Medium Format, I really prefer fixed focal length lenses..... 50mm on my OM-1, I also have a 35mm for it. The Rollei has a 28MM lens.

    Markioli: Do you like taking pictures of nature Blue? If so i would love to know how you capture that?

    Frreenie: Yes, to expand on Markioli's question - nature shots are so hard to stage, can you tell us about how you find the lighting and timing you're looking for? Do you stalk a scene waiting for the right moment, or find inspiration in the moment as you go along?

    BlueWingTeal: Frreenie..... a bit of both. If you have looked at the Flickr stuff, there is a Pennypack set and a Wissahickon set. Those are both places I have walked countless times with dogs and friends and many times just alone. Some shots are scenes I have returned to over and over.... but many are just shots that spontaneously happened. The Rollei set has four shots that were taken last year in Minnesota.

    Markioli: I have a passion for drawing. I love looking at the world in a way other people don’t always appreciate. But saying that, I feel rather humble having just seen your photo of snowy path.

    MitMoi: I really like Eastern Forrest #1 and #2. For me, they have so much movement. I told Blue they reminded me of water rivulets running down a window.

    Which I believe, just highlights the whole, "I thought I knew what I was looking at, look again", quality of his work.

    BlueWingTeal: Mark and Mit.... those shots are my personal favorites, along with the shot of my dog on this journal. They were all taken on the same day. Most people just don't get them.

    MitMio: You know Blue sometimes that's a huge hurdle to get over, trying to "get" the art. Sometimes I can jump over it and sometimes I can't. I always find I do better if the artist gives me a story. But sometimes their words!

    It just hit me, sometimes reading the placard is like reading a comment by SovalDues, my élan man. The words make so much sense to them ... but I feel like I'm sinking in a quagmire to make the words fit my experiences.

    It is frustrating; especially when it's not something you can look at and immediately place in the "pretty" category.

    Does this make sense? Do you face this frustration when viewing other people's work?

    BlueWingTeal: Makes perfect sense Mit. To me, the absolute best way to experience art is through the artist. If you can hear or read what the artist feels about the work, or what he/she is trying to express in the work.... it completes the art. I don't want to get overly philosophical here, but..... to quote E.H. Gombrich in his introduction to The Story of Art... There really is no such thing as Art. There are only artists. I truly believe that.

    McWho: Been viewing all the photos in the links, great range of subjects. I love quite a few of them, being especially partial to found lettering like the signs and those amazing stories written on the buildings.

    BlueWingTeal: McWho...Those found stories blew my away when I discovered them, and they still do. I am working on ways to mount them as a set, and want to submit them in an upcoming photo contest. I have to get working on that soon.

    Platypus: I wonder how I would turn out if I'd pose for you. I bet I'd be all pretty and stuff, because all your pictures are :)

    MitMoi: Platypus, you know, I was thinking the same thing. He seems to really "see" the beauty - or make us discover the beauty in someone. I was very impressed with the Nudes series. I think it would take a lot of trust to allow someone to do that.

    BlueWingTeal: Very interesting subject Platypus.... I am very proud of my skill in "seeing" beauty in a model, as Mit calls it. I would like to think I could create a gorgeous photo regardless of who the model was.

    “I think it would take a lot of trust to allow someone to do that.”

    There are two models in the set of nudes. Before last year I had never done a nude shoot, and decided it was something I should try. I found the first model on Craig's List (we could do a whole discussion on the "model search") I was way more nervous than she was, but we have done three more shoots since, and have become good friends. The other model was already a friend, who, after seeing the first shots, asked to give it a try.

    Trust is the key word.... professionalism becomes a reality, and maintaining respect and boundaries for the model, balanced with the intimacy and relaxed atmosphere required to get decent shots....it was a great experience.

    Mote_Already: Just wanted to express my appreciation of the images, particularly the last one, the Polaroid scan. Was the washed out ground all from natural light?

    BlueWingTeal: Mote If I had to pick an all time favorite....that is it. Those are Marble steps.....the building is a police station in Philadelphia known as the "round house". I did very little alteration to that that shot except clean it up a bit.

    Mote_Already: Yeah, that's the one that really grabbed me, Blue It almost even looks like you used a bit of a slight fisheye effect, but if it's round... that could be the reason! Great framing. Very stark and gritty image. Nice work indeed!

    BlueWingTeal: the best part is it's taken with a Polaroid Spectra I got on Ebay for $5

    Adrnoc: Serendipity plays a big roll for me when taking photographs. Do you ever transition from serendipity to knowing it is a good shot before you take it?

    BlueWingTeal: I am constantly disappointed with the results of what I thought would be a great shot....and constantly surprised by great shots that I never expected....That's what keeps it fun!

    Then it got fun as people started posting photos to share. I will include a few here:

    ButterFlyMating, Aaron Dock
    
    
    
    
    
    
    MoonTower, photo by Deedlebomb
     FlipFlop Crop
    photo by PookieSue, shared by TrafficGuy 
    Mist-DCam
    photo by Erdos0
     
    WhiteLakes
     

    Photo by Mote_Already

    Fishy

    Photo by Arron Dock

    Nepal around the Kathmandu Valley, winter 2001. Photo by Ayamikhan.

    Spoken View

    photo by Mote_Already

    Last time I looked at the entry there were more than 246 comments – so I count this as a successful first venture of Le Salon De MitMoi.